Organizational Communication was my major in college. I’ve been thinking about it this past few days more than ever. I’m working on a Quality Management Systems manual together with our HR/Admin Assistant, who happens to be a fellow UP Manila Orcom grad (years younger than me though). It’s the first time I’ve been in touch with the management side of Orcom since college. I went straight to a magazine then to a graphic design agency, so I never really practiced Orcom. It had very little creative side to it.
I’ve been on the receiving end of many blank looks whenever people ask me what my course is. Let me first give you the textbook definition: Organizational Communication – The process of creating and exchanging messages within a network of interdependent relationships to cope with environmental uncertainty. Whew! Can’t believe I still remember that. Now, let me give you our favorite layman’s definition: It’s a combination of management and communication. And the most uttered disclaimer of all: No, it’s not like MassCom.
Even Orcom majors themselves cannot fully define Orcom in their own terms. It’s just so broad. We always say we’re “jack of all trades, master of none”. To give you a better idea, here are some of our major subjects: Management Theories, Organizational Theory, Management Communication (taught by Emily Abrera and Maricel Arenas, CEO and VP of McCann-Erickson), Public Relations, 12 units of Speech Communication, Intercultural Communication, Communication Theories, Linguistics. I can’t remember the rest. My favorite was PR. Even the teacher was my favorite. The least helpful was probably Linguistics (cute Prof though,
). I’m going out of topic for a while here. Let me just demonstrate how poorly equipped UP is when it comes to facilities. We had an Audio Visual Communication subject and the only AV equipment we had were a slide projector and a transparency projector – old models at that.
As proof of how broad Orcom really is, look at where we are now. In my batch, I’m the only one who’s a full-time writer (as of last check). Some went to banks, a couple to law school, one in an ad agency, one is a teacher, one in PR, at least two in Corporate Comm, one in cosmetics, one in HR/Admin. I don’t know where the others are. My officemate and I were discussing how confused an Orcom grad can get once he/she graduates. He asked me how life after Orcom is and I told him it’s kind of weird. I wasn’t able to use much of what I learned in our major subjects. It was too late when I discovered how much I really love to write. I should have taken Creative Writing.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not discouraging those who want to take Organizational Communication. It may be good for you if you have varied interests and expertise. And never make the mistake of thinking it’s like MassCom. Think corporate communication instead. And go to UP Manila, not La Salle (the only other school offering the course). Heehee. ![]()
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hi! i’m an orcom graduate (UP Manila, of course) batch 2001 and i just came across your blog. I was surprised you blogged about the course. Much has changed now (except the AV equipment; but we do have a wide flat TV screen now and a couple of LCD projectors hahaha). By the way, DAC is creating an orcom alumni directory; would you and your batchmates want to be listed? do email me embarrientos@unilab.com.ph. Thanks!Comment by barry — March 24, 2007 @ 11:57 pm | -
Hi Barry. It’s good to know that Orcom is developing. We can’t do anything much about the equipment though, unless the alumni make big donations (calling on all Orcom grads
). I’ll inform my batchmates about the directory. Please also let me know through this blog when the directory is finished. Thanks!
Comment by gypsypen — March 25, 2007 @ 11:39 am | -
hi there. orcom grad here too. graduated a year ahead of barry. hehe. anyway, just dropping by to say hi.Comment by Angelo — January 4, 2008 @ 8:35 am | -
Hi Angelo. Thanks for dropping by.
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well..hi..im janine..a devcom freshie of UPLB…i was kind of thinking about transferring to UPM and try orgcom coz i really am desperate..it’s not about my course or the way uplb system runs standards..but im really sad in here..you know the kind of away-from-home syndrome…hufff…i plan to shift so that i could stay at my aunt’s house in manila instead of staying at a dorm.well,but im not sure what orgcom offers..what would be the job most probably associated with orgcom?and will it be a right decision if i shift to UPM from LB?hope comeone could help me..id be very happy even with just a bit of advice..thnkz!Comment by janine — January 15, 2008 @ 2:28 pm | -
Hi, Janine. Orcom can equip you for a career in corporate communication, business or human resource management, organizational development, marketing and public relations. It gives you an overview of everything, and it will depend on your strengths when it comes to choosing which way you’ll go. For example, if you’re a good writer or a good speaker, or both, you can do corporate comm, marketing and PR. If you have good organizational and analytical skills, then you could go for a career in management. The bulk of the major subjects revolve around management theories, communication theories and research, and speech communication. There are also a couple of subjects on technical or business writing.I hope I was able to help you.
As for shifting to UPM from UPLB being the right decision…well, it’s only yourself who can know that. If you think you’ll like Orcom, then by all means move to UPM, especially if the change of location will make you really happy. You could also try exploring other UPM courses that you might like: http://cas.upm.edu.ph/Comment by gypsypen — January 15, 2008 @ 3:34 pm | -
gypsen..thanks a lot for that response…I am really glad to have an overview about orcom(sorry i thought it was orgcom)..o well.. most of the devcom pipz are planning to shift to other UP systems so I think I’m kind of carried away…I want to try more in my college life…thanks for dropping by…you’re a great help…hope I could still drop by some other time in this site…xao!!Comment by Janine — January 26, 2008 @ 11:29 pm | -
Glad to be of help, Janine
Comment by gypsypen — January 28, 2008 @ 2:56 pm | - hi! i was looking for something about orcom in google when i stumbled upon your blog. i’m an incoming freshman student in UP Manila. like you, i’m taking up orcom.when people ask me what my course is, i get a lot of huh’s and what’s. and i find it hard to explain because really, i don’t know what exactly orcom is all about. it’s a good thing i read your entry. now i know more or less what to expect in my college life.thanks!
btw, i’m planning to use orcom as my pre-law.
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You’re welcome, mara.
Hope you’ll learn a lot and have a great stay at UP Manila.Comment by gypsypen — April 8, 2008 @ 2:22 pm | -
Cool. Organizational Communication is the process of creating and exchanging messages within a network of interdependent relationships to cope with environmental uncertainties (Goldhaber, 1990). This is the only answer I give whenever I am asked with the million dollar question: ORCOM?! ANO YUN!I’m a fresh OrCOm grad, with high hopes and idealism! 
I agree with the confusion most OrCom people have after graduating from the course. The degree program itself is so broad you can enter just about any industry you want! I guess???@Janine
I have a batchmate who is a shiftee from LB-DevCom, I don’t think she regrets making that decision. If you want to shift to orcom, do it as early as now; they are strict when it comes to giving away slots. In our batch, I think we barely have 5 shiftees out of the MILLIONS who have auditioned! OK! that was a bit exaggerated!@Mara
All my batchmates who took the UP-LAE passed, now, they are about to enter UP Law School. If you plan to have OrCom as your pre-law course, that would be perfect! OK! Too much advertising!@Gypsypen
Sorry! Can’t help but respond to the previous replies.Hi Sir Barry!
Barry up there is now a professor in UP Manila he is my Technical Writing professor. Hope he is not proofreading my reply to this post! He is also my PR prof! I think that is the path I want to take! Hopefully!!! (Ok! This is not his blog site! STOP!)@Gypsypen (Again)
How are your fellow orcom grads? Are there any bums? I always heard that no OrCom product stays jobless, and we earn more that -toooooot- grads.
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@OrcomDinAko: Wow, long comment. Thanks for the effort of replying to almost every other person who commented here.
That Goldhaber citation made me smile. I had already forgotten about him, but your comment reminded me of who he is to us Orcom people. To answer your question, there are currently no bums that i know of, but I think most of us definitely had a ‘bumming around’ phase, hehe! About earning more, uhm, no comment. Haha! 
- hanna Says:
June 24, 2008 at 1:08 pm ehi dear! i’m a junior orcom student, shiftee from a different course. almost not a surprise to find sir barry here, he’s currently my oc142 teacher. anyways, i still find it hard to understand and define the carreers an orcom grad could have. it is as you say- connected yet diverse. but i guess that’s what’s good about being an orcom person. there are actually no limits. and since there are still not so many orcom grads compared to other comm courses, the prvilege to put the first orcom footprints in society is actually ours. we may had a hard time drawing the image to orcom outsiders but until we make the mark, maybe they’ll begin to see for themselves the course come to life.okay, that sounded too mushy.


April 29, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Hey there orcom friends! I can’t help but reply to this blog (which I came across while I was looking for MA in Orcom
) because of all the posts. I graduated April 2007.
Share ko lang din, while I was applying for a job last year, medyo nahirapan akong magdecide kung saan ako kasi nga maraming opportunities. I want to focus on one field but then I am also interested in others. I have been through a lot of interviews/exams before and the first thing they asked was “what is Orcom?” My frequent answer was “communication with management” to cut the long story short. Haha. I’ve had my share of ups and downs while bumming and waiting for the right job. After four months, I finally got a job offer which was truly a blessing. Now, I am a technical writer for one of the best IT firms. Although all those IT stuff is Greek to me (you know we don’t have computer science subjects — html, javascript etc.), I could definitely capitalize on these new knowledge. Hopefully, I could find the career that I want in the future probably in corp comm (oil companies!) or foreign service (embassies, ADB, tax free, kaching kaching!).
Good luck to all new OrCom students and alumni
Iba talaga pag OrCom. Sabi nga ni Sir Barry, “UP na, OrCom pa!” See you around!
April 30, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Haha, that “communication with management” thing is also my fallback and ‘tamad’ explanation. By the way Ice, the officemate I mentioned in my post was your classmate, Joey. I let him read the comments and he knows you and Barry.
April 30, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Hmmm… actually Ate Leah and Ice. I’ve been in a whirlwind journey looking for the right job as an OrgComm graduate. I first started with a bank then decided to shift into a career with project management in a government agency and then I landed another job with the HR Department. Currently I’m still practicing HR which is way beyond what our course had taught us, but still quite relevant especially with the DS126 or DS128 subject (I can’t really remember aside from the quotes – “oiliness is next to ugliness,” and “brevity is the key to good communication”). So far, I decided to study again because my path is still vague with the course I took. I do hope a career in law would help me find my way in the hustle and bustle of the corporate life.
Quoting from a friend of mine in defining orcom – “ORCOM… it’s everything!!!”
Cheers to yah guys and gals! =)
May 2, 2008 at 11:03 am
Hi Joey! So ikaw pala si officemate! Hehe.
Ako eenjoyin ko muna ang trabaho ko ngayon.
Gusto ko din mag-aral ulit pero something OrCom din. Sana matuloy yung MA na pinaplano nila sa UPM.
May 27, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Hi..
I’m an incoming OrCom junior (And Sir Barry would be my prof this coming semester *shivers*)
And so far so goood.. I really like the course and it really helped me a lot.. I believe that our batch (2010) is really promising..
Anyway, I’m planning to take both the Foreign Service Officer Examination (which is really competitive, but I heard that multiple OrCom grads have passed this one) and the UP-LAE (which is equally, if not more competitive).
Go OrCom
May 28, 2008 at 10:20 am
Hi Alps. Good to know you’re enjoying Orcom! Good luck on the Foreign Service exam and the LAE.
June 2, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I wouldn’t say Orcom is everything; you say this only when you fail to recognize how your interest and potential fit into the range of possibilities that the course offers. Knowing one’s career path is, afterall, a personal responsibility; it would be too much to ask your degree program to answer it for you. The Orcom training gives you the ammunition; you go and seek your own battle.
So the question to ask is not what opportunities are available for the Orcom graduate (because it is neither a course for everybody nor the easy way to a high-paying career), but what is it you really like to do, your passion, your interest, or what you are really capable of doing. this might sound cliche, but i believe it’s precisely the basic questions that you have to ask yourself first. Again, orcom is not for everyone because it is not everything.
If you feel strongly about being in the fields of corporate comm, marketing comm, public relations, and related industries, then Orcom may be the right course for you. If you think your interests are way out of these, then do Orcom a favor: move out of the program or don’t even try to belong.
I say this piece with conviction because some students still think orcom is their easy way out of a toxic life in another course or campus–it is not. Or that it guarantees the way up to stardom or richdom–it never was and never will be.
And for orcom graduates who can’t seem to find their place in this world, it might be the basic questions you need to ask yourself first. Sometimes, it doesn’t even matter what degree you have; it’s what drives you.
June 4, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Thanks for the enlightening reply, Barry.
June 9, 2008 at 5:13 pm
more and more people I know want to be in the OrCom program. hihi.
i miss DAC
June 19, 2008 at 5:18 am
Hi. I was in one of the first batches of Orcom students at UP Manila. I really loved it. Ite gave the tools I need to be successful in life. I now work as a Senior Financial Analyst at Walt Disney here in California. It was also the coolest course back in my time….
June 21, 2008 at 11:57 am
wow, you work in Disney? how did orcom help you? i’m really interested.
July 5, 2008 at 7:20 pm
hi guys! im an ex-orcom student… just shifted to computer science this sem, still in UPM..
though i shifted out of the program, i cannot say na panget ang OrCom.. actually, it was cool being there, at least for a year. though hindi man lang ako nakapag-orcom101, masasabi kong talagang maganda ung program dahil nga it touches a lot of fields and career paths.. jack of all trades nga kumbaga.. it’s just that, depende lang tlga sa tao yan kung magugustuhan nya at kung un talaga ung interest nya.
July 15, 2008 at 10:51 pm
I’m an OrCom grad and I have no regrets. I’m currently working as an Executive Assistant in an Insurance Company in New York City and after much deliberation of what I really want to do in life, I will be moving to a new position next week – Human Resource Administrator.
Four years after my graduation, I still couldn’t figure out what I wanted to do in life and what specific career path to pursue. I blamed OrCom for it because I felt that it didnt give me any specific direction in my career but it was too late, I’m done with college. So I did some soul-searching and thought of the things that I enjoy and love about my company and my current work, which is also quite involved in HR. I thought of pursuing sales, then customer service, then maybe just stay in my dead-end job. Then one day, I just realized I would love to work full-time in Human Resources. I have the best and spoiledest position in the company but I’m willing to give it all up to pursue what I really want.
A couple of months after I made that decision – that I will be in HR – an opportunity opened and I was the first in line to grab it! Now, I thank OrCom for it. I knew there was a reason why I took that major, I just had to discover it. Although it took me four long years to figure out what I really wanted to do in life – it’s worth knowing what future lies ahead of me.
With this, I would like to quote Sir Barry,
“Knowing one’s career path is, afterall, a personal responsibility; it would be too much to ask your degree program to answer it for you. The Orcom training gives you the ammunition; you go and seek your own battle.
So the question to ask is not what opportunities are available for the Orcom graduate (because it is neither a course for everybody nor the easy way to a high-paying career), but what is it you really like to do, your passion, your interest, or what you are really capable of doing. this might sound cliche, but i believe it’s precisely the basic questions that you have to ask yourself first.”
At the end of the day, it’s not about the money you’ll make and the title in your business card. It’s about you – your passion, your interests and your abilities. OrCom definitely provided me with the tools – all I had to do was find myself first then use those tools to my advantage.
I’m starting in HR next week – I’ve just battled weeks of severe office politics but I think it’s all gonna be worth it because I know that this is what I would love to do for the rest of my career life.
July 25, 2008 at 3:44 pm
OrCom grads sure are going places. I’m on my way to the discovery of what I really want to pursue (hmm… which are corporate comm and/with photography). I’m building on experiences in an IT setting to add to my multimedia and writing skills. I’ll be taking up MA classes as well. I know these would prepare me for future battles here and abroad. I can’t wait.
July 29, 2008 at 7:07 pm
wow, this blog post brings together orcom people from all over the world! haha.
ice: i think i know who you are. =)
ronald basa: hi! nice to know that despite the distance, you still keep in touch with the orcom community even through blogs like this. do you have an email address, sir? i’m sure doc sarile will be pleased to know.
cheng: you left the program too soon! you should have taken some major subjects before deciding, hahaha! just kidding. you did the right thing: you felt the program wasn’t for you, so you moved out. I hope orcom students learn from you. what’s nice though is, despite being a non-orcom, you still made an effort to join the conversation here. maybe there’s really that part in you that belongs to orcom. and forever belong to orcom. hahaha.
hannah: i read your commment. you weren’t being mushy; you were being honest about your doubts now. again, i ask you not to determine what career paths orcom may have for you, but to determine what it is you really want to do. see you in class! haha
now i’m acting like this is my blog, my post. hahaha. sorry gypsypen! haha
July 29, 2008 at 7:09 pm
elaine: hi! may i get your email address, too? it’s always nice to keep in touch with fellow orcom grads wherever they are in this universe.
July 30, 2008 at 9:58 am
Barry, all your comments are really fine with me and very much appreciated. It’s great to have someone here who’s still directly involved in the program. You’re still teaching, right?
When I wrote this blog post, I didn’t have any agenda and I certainly never thought that it would bring together a lot of Orcom students from all over. I was pleasantly surprised at how this became some sort of a discussion board. Keep it up, everyone!
P.S. I mentioned in my post that my favorite Orcom subject was PR, and what do you know – I’m now a PR Officer.
August 2, 2008 at 10:31 am
What do you know, they’re looking for OrCom people to train management staff in our company! Hmm… Dr. Sarile is the person I have in mind. Just shows how important our course is.
When I heard that from our HR, my pal and I went, “did I hear OrCom? OrCom kami!” then the HR person said, “yeah, that’s why you’re in (insert foreign investment bank client here)!” Sayang. I would want to transfer in the training/hr/comm division but couldn’t.
In our team, 2 kaming OrCom at isang OrgComm. LOL. We create comm materials for the clients. Maybe God wants me to bank on these first before transferring to another team!
August 2, 2008 at 10:34 am
Will an MA in DevComm (UP Open) supplement my OrCom degree? That’s the closest MA I thought of. If only UA&P offers IMC for MA, I would’ve considered that too.
August 2, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Ice, hmm…I just checked the curriculum of the Master of Development Communication program, and I guess it would nicely supplement an Orcom degree. Maybe Barry could answer better?
August 17, 2008 at 10:43 am
gypsen: yes, i still teach part-time, and I like it that way; Orcom practice helps in Orcom teaching. and vice versa.
and like you, PR was one of my fave subjects in college; Ed Timbungco was my prof. And what do you know, I do PR now, too. Hahaha.
I should invite you to class if I handle the PR subject. You wouldn’t mind meeting the new batch of Orcom students and sharing with them your PR practice, right?
ice: that’s nice to know that your HR is specifically looking for Orcom graduates. if they are looking for OJT, tell me; i handle the Juniors who’ll take their practicum next sem.
on your MA, I was like you before: I wished UP had MA Orcom or UA&P had MA IMC. I decided to apply for the MA ComRes in Diliman, but last minute–on enrolment day–I decided to instead enrol in Ateneo’s MA Comm, which I’m still trying my darn best to finish. Hehe.
I haven’t looked into the UPOU’s DevComm, but because you mentioned before that you’d like to work in ADB or the like, then DevComm might help you. Good luck in your MA hunting!
August 17, 2008 at 11:04 am
gypsen: by the way, there are 3 more Orcom graduates who are now teaching in DAC. In a way, they are more involved in the Program because they are full-time instructors.
Burn Bernadas and Madame Mikee Inton are both from the reputed “Silver” batch of Orcom.
The latest addition is Ana Aclan. All 3 are among the best in their batch.
August 27, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Anna is now teaching? Which subject? Cool!
Now I’m still building my career and gaining more experiences. I want to work for ADB, UN, or embassies in the future as part of their comm team. Definitely worth a try.
But I realized that my ultimate dream job is to be a travel photographer. Part time, perhaps? Hehehehe.
August 27, 2008 at 9:45 pm
@Ice: And my ultimate dream job is to be a travel writer! Maybe we’ll see each other in a big travel mag one day, huh? Hehe!
But I also love photography…yeah, especially travel photography.
August 28, 2008 at 3:40 pm
are there good travel mags here in the Philippines? a friend pursued his dream by joining a cruise ship in miami. he’ll be working as a junior cruise photographer. inggit!
maybe we’ll even work together someday! hahaha!
September 5, 2008 at 12:14 am
wow. this was REALLY helpful.
I’m second year ComSci UPM student and I’m planning on shifting to OrCom but I didn’t have much of an idea about what it really was. Seems like it’s exactly what I want.
This helped a lot.
Thank you
September 6, 2008 at 4:45 am
someone asked for my email – ronaldbasa@yahoo.com. it is nice to hear from fellow ORCOM student and graduates.
peace…
September 8, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Orcom here
2007. nice blog. It helps that Orcom gives us lots of options. But at the end of the day, you have to focus on what you really want to do, what skill you want to pursue and career you’re aiming for.
im now in the pharmaceutical industry as a Product Manager. Cheers to all Orcom grads!
September 9, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I am going to speak in front of HS students again to explain communication courses in general. Probably help them get over the nursing craze and provide options, only if they knew what it is all about.
And yes, I’ll raise the OrCom flag once more. I’m looking forward to it!
Care to give me some pointers re deciding to take a comm course in your perspective?
- considerations, skills, traits needed
- how in demand
- problems encountered and how to get over them
Your comments would be appreciated.
September 10, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Hi Ice,
My 2-cents worth:
- skills/traits needed: good in oral and written communication (Of course! But I must confess that I’m a better writer than speaker, hehe); people-oriented; tactful; wide range of interests; works well with a team; highly adaptable
- how in demand: very! maybe not as highly publicized as nurses, etc., but look at it this way – almost every company out there has a communication department, and communication mediums are constantly evolving so I guess there’ll always be room for those serious in their career.
- problems encountered: It is ironic, but one of the problems I constantly encounter is miscommunication. It is very important to develop the skill of being concise but still informative and accurate. Documentation is also very important so you have something to fall back on when a problem arises.
Someone taking a Communication course should not merely be a good writer and speaker, but must also have what it takes to deal with the “behind the scenes” stuff. Many people tend to glamorize our profession…but really, there are days when it’s completely the opposite!
On the lighter side…I think Communication is one of the fields that has great perks!
October 19, 2008 at 5:08 am
Hi Sir Barry!
Apologies for the super late reply – I’ve been unbelievably busy these past few months. I’ve officially moved to Human Resources and boy, it’s nuts! But I’m lovin it! I couldnt ask for anything more. Well actually, I think I could ask for more money, LOL!
Btw, my email add is idiosyncratic28@aol.com. Regards to all OrCom grads!!!
November 18, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Whew. It seems that it has been quite a while since I last visited this site. Anyway I am still the confused guy who posted that message way above this one. Confused in a sense that I’ve been skipping from one job to another but quite surprisingly, the companies who accept me dont seem to mind. Charms perhaps? Hehehe.
Going back, as I look back in my college days in the OrgComm program, the thing I adored most was Speech although I might say that I really don’t have the Lasallite “thwang” or the Miriam “accent”. What the course had taught me though was to be critical with what Isay. I sometimes overanalyze myself and automatically turn on my T1 system everytime wrong grammar is present. I guess everybody can relate to this (I still remember Sir Barry’s story about the “pasikat” guy who was with him in the FX who he corrected unconsciously).
I guess it is just some sort of impulse or reaction that the program has imparted upon us.
Hmm… getting quite paranoid now, somebody correct my grammar if there is anything wrong with what I’ve written.
By the way Ice, it’s so nice to hear that you’ve been so active in your line of work. I am currently on my 5th job and still counting.
Tets Camingawan? Is that you? hmmm?
November 20, 2008 at 8:05 pm
hey joey!
nice to hear from you. yes, I’m still active in my job as a tech writer. soon I shall be a student again!
January 4, 2009 at 9:04 pm
hey there.
I was doing some research on the course orcom and I stumbled across your blog.
I’m an incoming college freshman.
I was just recently notified that I had been accepted into DLSU with my first choice–orcom.
I’m still waiting for my UP results.
The reason I listed orcom as my first choice was because I love writing.
Are you saying that orcom is sort of useless if your primary aspiration is to become a journalist or columnist?
January 4, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Hi! Orcom does have writing classes, but more geared towards business and research writing. However, I was able to hack being a magazine writer and a Copywriting simply because I love writing, too!
And as with any other kind of writing, our professors taught us the proper techniques and styles. So it’s really up to you and what you really want. You could either take Journalism for a more focused curriculum, or you could take Orcom for broader knowledge and skills, therefore more career options.
You may want to read the other comments above from other Orcom grads and students to give you a better idea. Barry’s comments are specially helpful. Good luck!
January 26, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Oh, yeah. my friend says that this course leans more toward business. The bad news is I didn’t pass UP.. huhu!
Anyway, thanks for your insight. At least I know what to expect now.
February 7, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Hello. I’m Maria Nelia Ariane Ong, a second year orcom student. Pwede po magtanong if you know any Organizational Communication graduate from 1999 and below or someone who’s student no. is 1995 or below? We need someone for our interview in our OrCom 140 team report under Sir Jan Bernadas. He’s a 2005 graduate so you may not know him. Thank You very much. Please send me an e-mail if you know anyone or text me at 09065752621. Thanks again.
February 17, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Hi! I’v been planning to transfer to UP Manila. Does anybody know what the quota for OrCom is?
I’m bad in math, btw. Does OrCom have math subjects? Please e-mail me at paramountlexicon@rocketmail.com Thanks!
February 19, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Hi Jeff,
Not sure about the quota. You can inquire through UPM OUR about that.
OrCom has a few math subjects, Statistics, Math 1 and 11.
February 21, 2009 at 2:24 pm
hi, i’m also planning of transferring to UP manila. i’m from UP baguio though. a frustrated econ student. a current freshie. like jeff, i’m very bad at math. i got 2.75 on my math11 here, and i ditched my math14 this sem. see how irony works here. i do better in my econ subjects.
anyway, i’m interested in orgcomm because i like doing stuff like writing and talking and others. and i think that i could do better in orgcomm. do you know sir, the required grade here?
February 22, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Hi Chris! I also barely got through the 3 Math subjects for Orcom.
I can’t give you an answer about the grade requirement though. Maybe someone else here has an idea? Or maybe you could call UPM and inquire about it.
February 23, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Agree, call the UPM OUR to get a better idea.
March 10, 2009 at 5:08 pm
hey.,i’m an incoming freshman in up and i’m also taking up orcom..thanks ha..i can now actually explain what orom means..coz i don’t know it myself eh..hehe..thanks
March 16, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Hello po. I’m Alyssa Batu, an OrCom freshie po from UPM. We are required in our NSTP subject to submit the contact details of one OrCom grad from batch 1996 or earlier for the OrCom alumni directory. It should one OrCom grad per student. I would like to ask if you know someone or if ever you would be willing to give yours. Thank you very much po!
March 18, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Hi Alyssa, I’m Juan Alvin Tiamson, I’m from OrCom Batch ‘95. You can contact me at tiamsonhouse@yahoo.com. Know what, the OrCom grads are all in Facebook. Hehe.. OrCom is really a flexible course – I’m into academic writing and publishing, and those whom I know are into consulting. OrCom grads are into all sorts of stuff but we’re all in the success lane. Regards to all OrCom people.
March 18, 2009 at 11:38 pm
does anybody knows the cut-off grade for transferees from other UP campuses for Orcom?
March 30, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Hi!!!
I am an incoming freshman in UP MANILA and I am not really sure as to what OrCom is really all about…
Any tips and/or advice??
Thanks!!!
March 30, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Hi! Just read back up through the comments and you’ll find the answers.
Look specifically for the ones from Barry and Ice.
March 31, 2009 at 3:29 pm
hello., i feel so sad when i knew in this site that OrCom is not like MassCom. i am planning to transfer in upm this S.Y. i am a 2nd year ab communication going 3rd year., and i thought the orcom and my field were relevant .. i am dreaming to be a broadcaster. is it okay fr me to take orcom?
March 31, 2009 at 5:06 pm
If you’re really dead-set on becoming a broadcaster, then better stick to MassCom for a more specialized training.
March 31, 2009 at 6:03 pm
yep., thanks. i am just unsatisfied on the quality education of my univ now, that is why i’m looking for a school that offers more challenging trainings
March 31, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Then why don’t you try applying for admission to the College of Mass Communication in UP Diliman?
April 1, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Hey!!!
I am also an incoming freshman in UP Manila with this course…
Do a lot of students take this course or do only a few apply for it??
By the way, this website really helped a lot in my understanding of what OrCom is really all about.
Thanks!!!
April 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Hey guys!!!
Thanks for creating this website… It really helped me a lot… Particularly since I am also an incoming freshman in UP Manila.
I’m just wondering if a lot of students take up this course?
Thanks!!!
April 2, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I’m glad that this blog page has turned out to be helpful to a good number of people. I don’t know anymore how many people take the course every year, so maybe the newer grads could help in answering that. In my time (in the 90s, hehe), there was only one Orcom block, with 30 students. Several shifted to other courses/campuses the following year, but there were also around the same number of shiftees to Orcom.
April 2, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Thanks!!!
By the way, any idea on what the curriculum (e.g. subjects) will be??
Thanks a lot…
April 2, 2009 at 11:57 pm
I was looking for the OrCom definition by Goldhaber through Google (yes, I know I committed a crime because I forgot) when this page came up as part of the results. So I thought, “Cool. No need to sift through countless web pages just to get the age-old definition for my course.”
Talk about nostalgia! I got engrossed in reading the comments. Haha. Sir Barry there was my professor in OrCom 104. Sir Timbungco was my PR prof too.
I shifted to OrCom from Public Health. Although it’s not Creative Writing, it DOES however teach you how to write in a more clear and concise manner. Perfect for organizations!
I’ve always thought it was one of the more dynamic courses offered by UP considering it’s still one of the “new” courses and allows for a wider range of options for work after college. (OrCom grad bias aside, teehee). After all, what is OrCom but a study of how organizations work after all.
April 27, 2009 at 12:37 am
right on, ice. Shiftee, transferee, or enrollee, anyone whose interest and passion is in Orcom can excel in it. Said another way,it means a student must have the right motivation to want to be part of the program. I said it once and I’ll say it again: the program is not for students who want to escape a boring or hellish life from a different course, campus, or university. Period.
For those who got in this year (which is, if I’m not mistaken,Orcom’s 25th year anniversary), welcome to the Orcommunity. You’ll be taking up subjects such as:
Public Relations (learn how to manage and protect your organization’s reputation, from employee relations to crisis communication)
Communication Trends and Styles (a look at new social media like blogs, wikis, and podcasts, and their impact on organizations)
Approaches to Communication in Management (prepares you for managerial communication—because not all good employees are good managers)
Technical Writing (you might be good at writing, but is it good enough for business?)
And many more.
You can also be part of student organizations like ORCOMSOC (degree program club), ADHERE (advertising club), and JMAP (Junior Marketing Association of the Philippines)—all board seats of which are dominated by Orcom students. There’s also the UP Manila Debate Circle, UP Manila Indayog (dance group), and the UP Manila Chorale, which are just some of Orcom students’ favorites.
You might even be part of the team to represent UP Manila in the Students Grand Prix of the Public Relations Society of the Philippines, which several Orcom teams had dominated all the way through to the national finals.
April 27, 2009 at 12:47 am
For new students, one of the lecturers you’ll meet is Ed Timbungco, who rejoins the Orcom faculty this incoming first semester as lecturer for Orcom 142 (Communication Processes and Organizational Structure).
Ed is the Director of Editorial Services and Media Relations at Ogilvy Public Relations WorldWide.
April 27, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Glad to know that Sir Timbungco is back. He was my favorite back then. You’ll learn a lot from him.
May 16, 2009 at 11:15 pm
i apllied to transfer to UP manila ofcors, orcom…then just a while ago i recievd a txt that we are gona take an exam..can you please help me to what subject matters should i study, like should i study..english?my creative writng skils?amm..i like have no idea…thanks..the exam is on monday btw..thanks much..
May 18, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Hey everyone, a lot of students have been asking how to shift to OrCom. Exam and interview process, cut-off etc.
Any thoughts?
How’s the OrCom MA coming? I enrolled at UPOU for Master of DevComm instead.
May 19, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Hi! I just passed the first screening of the OrCom shifting process. There will be an interview tomorrow and I do hope that I do well. I want to be part of the OrCom family.
May 19, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Congratulations! Good luck on the interview!
May 19, 2009 at 5:36 pm
There’s now an exam and an interview? I’m so out of touch! In my time, shiftees only had to meet a grade requirement (I think, hehe!).
May 19, 2009 at 10:20 pm
hehe..same here..just got a txt for an interview tomorow..one question at the exam btw, last monday was, define orcom in one coherent paragraph..haha..and this site really was a big help..i do hope as well to do good at the interview…grade req. btw is 2.0 for other univ and 2.75 for same up unit..
May 19, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Share mo naman ang process for the benefit of those who want to do the same. Thanks
May 20, 2009 at 11:06 am
Glad to know that this page was able to help you.
May 23, 2009 at 6:02 am
Hi! I just learned from Professor Mikee Inton that I got in. I will be an OrCom student soon.
Anyway, the new process for shifting into Organizational Communication:
1) If you are a student within the UP System, then you should have a GWA of 2.75 and if you are not then, you should have a GWA of 2.0
2) There is an exam comprised of a grammar test, fifteen items but the score for each item will vary; two essays.
3) Interview, a panel interview. In my case, there were three professors in the panel but one did not ask questions since he is my prof in Comm III.
Approximately 55 – 60 applied but only 19 – 25 were accepted in the first screening. 10 – 14 will officially be OrCom students next semester. 4 will be wait-listed.
May 25, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Congrats Dien. Masaya yan
Is Ma’am Sarile back?
June 6, 2009 at 10:13 pm
hello. for almost 8 months, i dreamed of becoming an OrCom student. hehehe, finally, i have successfully transferred from UP baguio to manila. good thing i passed the orcom interview and the exam. i was listed as waiting but then received a call from the registrar’s that i got accepted for the course. this site is really helpful specially that Goldhaber’s definition of OrCom. the panel of interviewees were pretty impressed with my answer from Goldhaber’s. too bad, i haven’t taken comm2. which means that i would be taking my orcom101 next year since comm2 is only available in UP Manila every 2nd sem (according to my adviser) i dunno what to do. i’m almost done with my ge subjects errr
June 6, 2009 at 10:24 pm
sorry for that. *panel of INTERVIEWERS. and there were three of them
June 24, 2009 at 8:26 pm
is Ma’am Sarile back?
wow…i came across this page because
ma’am Sarile asked us to do some research
about OrCom for the info link activity in Orcom
101..Dien and Mara are my classmates..
this is really interesting..and I was also
absorbed into reading everyone’s comment..
and…I must agree “I also barely got through the 3 Math subjects for Orcom”
I actually am retaking Math 11..hahaha
this is kind of embarrassing
June 24, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Hello! i’m a sophomore orcom student in UP manila. my ex-blockmate found this site and referred it to me. Orcom was my first choice (simply because i hate math and i love to interact with people), but now, i am doubting if i really wanted to pursue this course. we are taking orcom 101 right now, and hopefully (crossing my fingers), i would finish this course. I know and have heard of a few successful orcom grads (including you. =]). And they somehow lift my spirits. Thank you for sharing your Orcom experience!
June 25, 2009 at 1:21 pm
OrCom na din ako!:D Shoutouts to Mara (101 classmate and orgmate), Cheng(nagpang-abot kami sa ComSci), and to Chris and Dien, na kabatch ko sa paglipat.
Finally.
Hurray for us!
@erica: Do I know you?
And yup, Ma’am Sarile is back. She was my prof this morning, and she told us about the 25th anniversary gathering or something. Hope the OrCom graduates in this “forum” will be there.
June 28, 2009 at 9:09 pm
hola!
cant rid of ms.lozada’s spanish class xD goodluck to our Orcomfreshies.
)
Well now that Im taking Orcom 101 with Prof. sarile, I wonder how is she as a professor?For the past two weeks that Ive been in her class I could feel her “passion” to encourage us to learn about life particularly the beauty of ORCOMM. but then, I cant figure out why do I fear expressing my thoughts and insights in her class? It seems like the problem is with me. Until now, I have certain doubts why I’m taking this course although your blogs really helped a lot! how i wish in no time i would know my purpose in this course xD so help me GOD
July 15, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Congrats to the new OrCom students. I’m sure you’d enjoy the whole course!
About Ma’am Sarile, she likes infolink. All students must participate and express their thoughts. Sometimes she would not show if she agrees or not with your answers. Hehehe! Sa umpisa lang yan, Enchanting Effigy. Been there too but when you finish 101, ok na, sanay ka na. The next majors would be like that style as well.
What’s cooking for the 25th anniversary this year? September, right? I’m hoping that the Orcomsoc would come up with something for both current students and alumni.
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As for now, I’m taking MA in DevCom in UPOU. The MA in OrCom will take years in the making pa eh.
August 4, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Inviting all OrCom alumni to OrCom’s 25th year anniversary on Sept 26, 2009. For more details, please click this Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=122980043640&ref=nf
Please spread the word to your batchmates!
regards,
barry
September 10, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Hi! I’m mike, a batchmate of barry in 2001. I totally agree with the same tamad definition “management + communication”.
My first line of work was in ad&promo, basically I did graphics and copywriting and events coordination. After two years I got a job as a marketing assistant now after almost 7 years as a Marketing Supervisor. Basically the course itself gives you very good fundamentals when it comes to the different aspects of communication in the corporate world.
Even though I am doing marketing now, most of my functions entails having good knowledge in handling all communication channels for the company in terms of marketing like advertising (message of company/product to clients), policies (internal comm & management principles), creative aspects in advertising and events.
OrComm course in UPM was great, and I would only hope that they can make the subjects – minor and major, more coherent and tight with one another. I hope the faculty can address the gaps and gray areas. There were some topics, projects and discussions(and some instructors also?) that were out of place with OrComm.
Hope to hear more from you guys, especially from our batchmates and classmates of 2001.
September 10, 2009 at 1:20 pm
btw, I really love and miss our Debate and PR classes and I hate the physics and chem classes